RUT on XT2: Intended behavior? Low Priority? Garmin wants to hear from you.

[jfheath]

Hopefully some of this is helpful. Your testing efforts are more careful and more complete than mine. You provide results where I offer theories.

Always helpful ! its good to see some of my earlier stuff revisited and confirmed (ie it jogs my memory!), and different takes on some things that I had never thought about.

I start with theories and then try everything I can think of to support them or pull them apart. Its only by doing that, that I can home in on a better theory ! I mentioned it because I have had a couple of issues with closest entry that I couldn't put my finger on, and it was another unknown to sidetrack me. I decided to keep it simple and never bother testing RUT when using CEP - except at one point I thought that it may trigger the behaviour - but it doesn't recalculate the whole route, which was the trigger that always developed into RUT behaviour.

[Apox]

I'm asking for help with my friend's XT2 model. I myself have an Xt model and with that the problem can be solved by saving the active route again.

But in the XT2 model this is reportedly not possible?
Is it possible to make the routes work better also in the XT2 model using only the navigator itself?

Or do you have to use, for example, this method https://www.javawa.nl/triprepair.html website.
Does this work with the XT2 model?

[jfheath]

Both methods work with the XT2. But - there is always a but ....

The XT2 doesn't seem to have an option to allow mobile data (like traffic, weather) to the phone separately from synchronisation between the XT2 and the Explore Database. Its either both or not at all as far as I can tell.

Edit 23/07/25:

• Yes the XT2 will allow traffic, weather, up-ahead places etc - without having to synch routes, tracks and and waypoints to the explore database.
  
  When first setting up Explore there is an option to allow 'storage of data' or to 'allow synchronise' - something like that. Once that is set up, the phone will synch to Tread and I have not found a way to get rid of it - other than to delete Tread from the phone AND to preform a system reset of the XT2 - and reinstall the Tread software without allowing synch and re-establish BT connections form Zumo to Headset and Phone. Tedious - and of course all settings on the XT2 have to be reinstated including visibility of the system folder - which is essential if you want to use TripManager.

With an imported route - either from Basecamp or from a gpx file - if that is allowed to synchronise then that process changes the route. Not drastically at first glance - It seems to follow the original route but 'improve it' - which basically means that it seems to ignore the shaping points. It then puts new shaping points on its new route. No I can't believe it either. But that is what I have observed.

However after that you can still apply the RUTproof fix

• Either by using the Javawa tool
• Or you can still resave the route - except not in the same way as with the XT2.

To resave the route, select the route and then click the Spanner. Down near the bottom is a 'Copy' option.
Choose that and give it a new name so that you know it is a copy.

As far as I can tell, the only difference is that the copy is flagged with mImported set to false. And tests have shown these do not show RUT behaviour where the original route did. This Copy facility does not add the additionl start point as your current position - which is what the XT1 does when you save tha eactive route.