Zumo 590 + 595 - What the Manuals Do not Tell.

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Re: Zumo 590 - What the Manuals Do not Tell.

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sussamb wrote: 03 Jun 2020 06:43 One thing that would be useful to know is how you create these routes. Do you generally import routes from other sources or create your own? Either way do you install or create them directly on your device or use BaseCamp and then send the routes to your Zumo? Have you any feel for which methodology tends to give you more problems?
I create my own routes, very rarely do I ever import others. I create them using Base Camp and then drag & drop to my SD card and import for use.

I've never really created a route so much. It's pretty annoying to me. But I hve picked a final point with one or two via/shaping points on the zumo and that seems to work well as long as I remember to do it in that order, starting farthest away and then moving closer. I usually have only one or two points, maybe 3, but the zumo handles this fine.
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Thankyou for this information, I'll send you a PM for the document...

I have the new XT and am struggling to get to grips (with off road riding) after having a Montana before.

Questions...

1. Can I upload and use maps from third parties (i.e. Talkytoaster) as I have done with the Montana before? - I know Garmin say the topo maps in the XT now include off road tracks, but do they really include all the byways etc. that are included with opensource maps such as the ones from Talkytoaster (BTW: highly recommend his maps)?

2. Do I still need to use tracks for off road riding, or can I now start to use routes(trips) in the XT with shaping points and be sure I will be directed along the exact route I had planned?

3. You say I should use the same map in basecamp as on the device when route planning (fully understand why!), it takes ages to load the map from the XT when I connect to my Mac, in order to use the same map. Is there a way to speed that up, or keep the map loaded in basecamp somehow. I seem to remember that you could copy the map image from the Garmin device to a usb stick (in a folder called Garmin) and leave that in your PC/Mac to speed up basecamp loading the map for planning use, is that still the case?

Any help greatly appreciated

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I noticed your PM, so I'll add more detail as best I can to my reply, along with the file.

Quick Answers

1. Yes. I dont know of TalkyToaster, but I use OSM maps - Sometimes. They are very detailed, but do not have road speed limits, so route times and ETAs are way off.

2. I dont know. I had a first play yesterday with the Europe maos, found a track that asecamp plotted a route along if i set the vehicle to off road. The route was transferred correctly to Zumo, but recalculated if I changed the preferences to car in the Zumo. I couldn't get the topo maps to show up in Basecamp. Express did not have an option to install them. I may have missed something.

3. I dont know. See answer above. I am not an off-roader, but still keen to find out. My next step is to try routing along tracks with OSM. So far I have been less than pleased with XT due to a couple of issues, both reported, one acknowledged and one mysteriously resolved (apparently). I am less than convinced with the benefits of the Garmin Explore website, but their maps are superb with increased detail on Zoom in showing contours, and ending up with satellite imagery. Still more research to do on that.

Nb if you have 3rd party maps active (ie ticked in MyMaps on XT), then disable the others that you are not using. The Zumos do weird things if it has two routable maps running for the same area.
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Just to add there is nothing special about TalkyToaster maps, his are based on the OSM database like all OSM maps. Difference is he charges for some of his whereas most OSM mapping is free :)
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Please can you PM me to obtain a copy of your doc. I have still been using Mapsource and have been trying to change to Basecamp.. the former still works well..
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charlesjsprice wrote: 20 Sep 2020 18:21 Please can you PM me to obtain a copy of your doc. I have still been using Mapsource and have been trying to change to Basecamp.. the former still works well..
Plus One on this please been using mapsource for ever and struggling a bit with Basecamp. Changing to a xt soon and other riders in the group hve 590 and BMW Navs so thinking its better if all were using Basecamp

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Hi Folks - @Scarecrow and @charlesjsprice

I have periods when I don't visit the site - so it helps if you PM me - send me your email address in the PM rather than post it publicly. I'll send you a copy.

nb

Note that this document isn't about Basecamp as such - it is more to do with using Basecamp to prepare trouble free routes for the Zumos. There is much about Basecamp that I do not use, so my notes and videos do not cover these features. But the essentila stuff is covered. However there is a link to a series of videos which take you through some of the things that you need to do in Basecamp in order to get the results that you want when on a trip.

nb you will go through a period when what you are being told is different from what you already 'know'. And you will disagree with what you are reading, and call it a load of boll-twoddle. But it is a 'Santa Claus' process. It is extremely difficult to accept and modify your understanding of the world when that new piece of information comes to light. There will be tears. And afterwards you will find that it all makes sense. Really.

I am working on a version for the XT. It is (sort of) similar to the 595, but there are some key differences in behaviour and some things that appear to me to be bugs, which I have lodged with Garmin.
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Hi there - I'll PM you to request your manual. I've spent literally days fighting with Basecamp and my newly-aquired 590 and so am hoping your information can help!
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Re: Zumo 590 + 595 - What the Manuals Do not Tell.

Post by jfheath »

I'll happily send a copy, but No PM received as yet @mike_walker . I need an email address to send it to.

The new england riders stuff is worth a look on using Basecamp. Mine deals with avoiding the issues that crop up when following a route on the 590 - and how I use Basecamp to prevent these issues from happening in the first place, and ruining my trip.
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