Reverse route in saved trip

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Reverse route in saved trip

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Am I missing something or is there no option to reverse a route in a saved trip.

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Re: Reverse route in saved trip

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No there isn't.
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Re: Reverse route in saved trip

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Brilliant!
Garmin, come on. Stop making more unnecessary new hardware and put some effort into making some user friendly SOFTWARE!
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The reason there isn't on automotive devices is that it can cause issues. If it's a simple start and finish route it's easy enough to do, but if you have points, for example on one side of a divided highway, then reversing a route isn't a simple matter.

On the trail devices do have a reverse route option but then when hiking you don't have to deal with divided tracks 😁
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Thanks for the reply. It would be nice if you could select "Reverse" and if that specific route is not possible, as with the example provided (divided highway) have the software indicate so and offer to calculate the next closest possibility to the original route, not default to "fastest" "shortest" etc. No?
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Re: Reverse route in saved trip

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Like was mentioned by sussamb, divided highways cause issues.... I tried using the 'invert' route in BC, not thinking about some route shaping points. I ended up with basically the route in reverse, but with some loop-d-loops around my shaping points....
Needless to say I had to add new shaping points for the reverse route on the other side of the divided hwy for the route to be correct.
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Re: Reverse route in saved trip

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electro_handyman wrote: 26 Apr 2022 01:35 Like was mentioned by sussamb, divided highways cause issues.... I tried using the 'invert' route in BC, not thinking about some route shaping points. I ended up with basically the route in reverse, but with some loop-d-loops around my shaping points....
Needless to say I had to add new shaping points for the reverse route on the other side of the divided hwy for the route to be correct.
I've done the 'invert' in Base Camp too. That's when I learned the value of the 'DUPLICATE' function. And then, to avoid even further confusion, I put the duplicate inverted route in it's own list folder to edit it. I can really mess up my original route if I don't.
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Re: Reverse route in saved trip

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If you create a track of your route and upload that as well.
This has the advantage that you can draw the original track as well as the changeable route on the zumo screen at the same time.

But if you want to go in the opposite direction:
- you can follow the track 'by eye' with no spoken instructions.
- you can navigate the track in either direction - again by eye, but the XT points the direction and distance to the closest point if you wander away from it
- you can use the XT to convert the track to a 'trip' which you can navigate in either direction and that will give spoken directions.

This works well although it can produce odd behaviour in certain situations if you choose not to follow the plotted magenta line.
eg if you use it on a 'figure of 8' route or some circular routes.

I haven't followed one of these in reverse direction, but tracks don't have route points, so I can't imagine that it worries too much about being a few yards away from the wrong side of the road.

Not ideal, but it will get you home along the same roads.

Today, I discovered something really important. I found another way that doesn't work.
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Re: Reverse route in saved trip

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Well, if you at the end of the route and want to go back on the same one, you can follow back the recorded track (not the one created from route in BC), provided it is set to record your movement. I always setting it on.

Another way is as jfheath said to use the track created in the BC from the route.
Another way is to create a duplicate route in BC, move it to a different folder and revert the route. Copy both to Zumo. This option is good even if you want to ride in a different direction from the start. One would ride say, clockwise and the other one counter clockwise.

Of course these are ways around. I understand what you mean. It would be easiest to click at the unit and it reversing the route as Garmin Montana does. However I've noticed many times that the newer software doesn't carry over good things from the old ones. I am a computer programmer myself and I know that anything is possible to program, (including sending a message notifying you that a via point is on the other side and will require a u-turn, follow by prompt if to bypass Y/N, etc. etc.). Requires more effort, coding lines, testing... The question is if they care doing it.

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