Ok. Thanks for the request for clarification. I'll give some brief specific answers here, but I'll send you a private message. I need to find out a bit more about your route that keeps announcing.
suzukizone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021 23:38
Should I take it "route creating tool" is the little icon with 3 boxes connected by lines? This would be the tool I use to click on the map to create my desired route?
The route creation tool is indeed the small icon at the top that has three tiny boxes connected by two lines. I never use it. It has never given me what I need.
suzukizone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021 23:38
Also please, if you would explain "database" is that a database of clicks I have created from previous routes? Or is it just a pool of info in the map or the device?
No, not the database of your clicks.
The 'database' is a list of thousands of places - hotels, pubs, shops, attractions, petrol stations, etc etc, etc. Each entry is a Waypoint and has an icon and lat/long coordinates along with other i fo like address and phone number. This what waypoints are. Points already created that you can put into your route if you wish. You can create your own (much shorter) list of Waypoints to add to your own route. There are advantages in using a stored Waypoint in your route - in the case of the 660, they announce as you approach and when you arrive. In the later Zumos, they are the only riute points that keep the name that you gave them in Basecamp.
You can search the database to find a hotel (say) in the area of the map that is on the screen. If you zoom-in close enough on the Basecamp map and have the map detail set to highest, you will get a map cluttered with icons of points in the database, particularly in built up areas. Hiver over one of these and you get the option to add the stored waypoint to your own route.
But you can also create your own stored Waypoints using the flag tool. This puts the waypoint into the 'list' window of Basecamp ready for it to be put into your route.
The Zumo 660 has its own list built in. It calls them 'Favourites, or Points of Interest.
Sometimes when you place a point for your route onto the map, it can land within a gnats whisker of a stored waypoint. Even if you have the map detail turned down low so that the icons dont show on the screen, they are still there. You think you are clicking on an empty bit of road, and an icin poos up saying you're routing through Joe's Diner. And because it has come up with a name that is stored in the database, that may make it announce when navigating.
suzukizone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021 23:38
Are you saying you create these waypoints by clicking using the tool I mentioned above to create a route?
No. i rarely use the route tool. It doesn't do what I want it to do. Usually I create my own waypoints with the flag tool. I give them a name that will make sense to me when I am riding, and I usually prefix them with a number. Sometimes a sequence number, sometimes a mileage.
I then use those waypoints to create the basis of my route. In a day long ride of maybe 200 miles I will have maybe just 4 or 5 Waypoints. A start, and end and 2 or 3 stop off points. The rest are just points that force the route along particular roads. What Basecamp refers to as Non announcing shaping points.
suzukizone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021 23:38
Or are you stating that you create a route by just listing a start and end point and then shape it in some way to customize the route.??
That is closer. See my answer above. I use named, flag Waypoints for the key points in the route, so if it is a short ride, yes, I may just have a start and an end point.
suzukizone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021 23:38
Man I must sound dumb but I have waypoints, viapoints shaping points route creation and sudry rolling around in my head. My competency here is obviously not up to the task. Wish I could sit down with someone at the computer and learn in real time.
No I disagree with you on this point. There is a lot of poor information out there. For example, it is common for the term 'Waypoint' to be used to refer to any point on a route. But we are using Garmin stuff, and the term Waypoint is very specifically defined. And when a Waypoint is put into a route on a Garmin device, it affects hiw the Zumo behaves.
So for the 660, a waypoint will announce approach and arrival. on the 595 and XT, these are the ponts on a route that the Zumo will use the name that you gave it in Basecamp. For the others, the Zumo is likely to change the name to something else.
To me, the only people that are dumb, are the ones that do not ask questions, and your questions have been very intelligent, attempting to seek out precisely the detail that you need to understand.
I just hope my answers have been able to address those.
But I need more info from you about your 'noisy' route and your chatty back seat driver. I'll send a private message and when I have more detail I'll put together a video which may help.
John