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Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:10 am
by titter
I've noticed that when I make a route in basecamp and send it to my Zumo, many of the via points that I've made alert on arrival despite being selected not to do so in basecamp. The more via points I've used the more announcements I get on my Zumo when travelling the route to the point when it can drive me mad!!! :D
I've discovered that if I make a route, convert it to a track then back into a route I only get only two points, basically the start and finish.
Will the Sat Nav follow this route ok? I've sent the routes to my device and then looked at them again in basecamp and they seem to be ok

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:07 pm
by sussamb
Which Zumo? Older devices can't use shaping points from BC so convert them to viapoints. Newer devices should accept shaping points.

While your Zumo may follow that track/route should you deviate and allow the device to recalculate I suspect it'll devise its own route.

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:14 pm
by titter
its a Zumo 550, Garmin say it doesn't work with basecamp but I've never had a problem making a route except for all the announcements.

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:16 pm
by sussamb
Well that's why you don't get shaping points, your device won't accept them from BC but treats them as viapoints, so they'll be announced.

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:43 pm
by titter
So if I make a route, convert it to a track then back into a route with only two points the start and finish do you think the Sat Nav will follow the route as its on the device or will it re-route it the most direct way. Guess it'll be trial and error, I'll need to make some routes and try them.

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:51 pm
by sussamb
I suspect it will provided you stick to the route, once you deviate I suspect not, but I don't have a 550 to try

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:52 am
by Breezly
titter wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:43 pm So if I make a route, convert it to a track then back into a route with only two points the start and finish do you think the Sat Nav will follow the route as its on the device or will it re-route it the most direct way. Guess it'll be trial and error, I'll need to make some routes and try them.
There is another way to make via points that will not announce on the Z550. In Basecamp if you shape the route using the Insert Tool (pencil icon) by clicking and dragging the route, and place the resulting via points PRECISELY in an intersection, the resulting via points will not announce on the Z550. This is actually true for any via points placed in an intersection or along a road without street addresses.

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:08 pm
by rbentnail
Breezly wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:52 am There is another way to make via points that will not announce on the Z550. In Basecamp if you shape the route using the Insert Tool (pencil icon) by clicking and dragging the route, and place the resulting via points PRECISELY in an intersection, the resulting via points will not announce on the Z550. This is actually true for any via points placed in an intersection or along a road without street addresses.
Ooh, I HATE doing that! I've found that placing points exactly on an intersection confuses me and the device because it wants to pass the point BEFORE giving me the turn instruction causing me to miss turns and on one occasion, nearly run right through a T intersection. I now
place points either well before or about a 1/2 mile after the intersection to avoid dying. Plus, in North Carolina's mountains, Base Camp is horrible at recognizing the difference between a bridge and an intersection. Much time can be spent going in circles b/c Base Camp wants to be under the underpass or on top of the overpass, neither of which I'm on.

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:12 am
by sussamb
rbentnail wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:08 pm Much time can be spent going in circles b/c Base Camp wants to be under the underpass or on top of the overpass, neither of which I'm on.
You must be on one surely?

Re: Way Points and Via Points

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:30 am
by Breezly
I have never experienced what you describe, but I generally would not place the via point at an intersection where I was turning. I would place the via point either at the preceding intersection or the succeeding intersection. Bridges and overpasses are not intersections so I wouldn't place a via point there anyways.