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The thought processes of Garmin's developers are sometimes a mystery to me...
The pre-set "zumo Motorcycle" profile can't be deleted, can't be renamed, and is missing some options

As far as I can tell, the default “zumo Motorcycle” profile is currently only available for the zumo XT2.
It's the standard setting for the Zumo XT2; unfortunately, there are no other options on the zumo XT2.
It's fixed and therefore “isn't supposed” to be changeable.

Did you once pair a zumo XT2 with the Tread app, not delete that zumo XT2 from the app, and then pair the zumo XT3 with the Tread app as well?

If so, you’ll get the zumo XT2 profile, unchangeable as it’s designed, on your zumo XT3 as well.

You can also uninstall “Zumo Motorcycle” if you only want to use the XT3.
Either reset the Zumo XT3 and the Tread app, or use a workaround in the internal database—but that’s a different topic.

One more thing: the vehicle profiles are also stored in the calculated routes in Explore.db.
However, in the calculated routes in edit: Trip Files and or Explore.db also, it’s not the profile name but the profile’s internal ID that’s stored.
So if your zumo XT3 has inherited the “zumo motorcycle” profile from the zumo XT2, the IDs no longer match

@proofresistant Bingo! Thank you for the guidance.

Problem solved. The profile was inherited from XT2 in Tread app in my phone.

Clarification: The profile was inherited from Explore app/web, no from Tread, and it is a heritage from XT2.

After resetting only the Tread app and the XT3, the "zümo Motorcycle" profile returned. On my second attempt, I reset the Tread app without enabling synchronization, reset the XT3 without enabling synchronization, deleted everything from explore.garmin.com (and from the Explore app), and only then enabled synchronization and imported the waypoints via GPX file to Tread app.

It could also be from Explore cloud, I don’t want to rule it out 100%, but I don’t think so, and it doesn’t match the results of countless tests.
But it’s may possible (or nothing is inpossible). edit: I’ve come to believe also that the device profiles are actually stored in the cloud. I decided to see what would happen if I completely reinstalled the Tread app without a Bluetooth connection to the device. And lo and behold, the profiles were there in the Tread app as if by magic—so they must be coming from the cloud.

I’ve never seen any reference / hint to Vehicle profiles in the Explore cloud, except that the underlying Vehicle profile is also noted in the route itself.

What I have seen, however, is that there are backups stored on the device itself, and routes in the form of trips, and that there are duplicates trips there as well.

In short, it sounds contradictory now, but profiles saved from Explore Wolke as a source is possible, but I personally don’t really believe it.

edit:
But what really matters is that you figured out how to delete your XT2 Zumo motorcycle, and next time, I’ll keep an eye on the Explore Cloud too

Just looking in, and have a question.

If a user is importing a gpx file and the file does not contain a recognised profile name, do you know which profile the XT3 uses as a default ?

The only way that I have been able to determine this in the past is to find a point to point route which is calculated differently for each profile, and then use that info to recognise the route that has been calculated from a gpx file with a rogue profile name. But the generated trip file may be a better way to find out. I don’t know.

I came to an interesting conclusion. I used the good old (simple) MapSource to plan the route. I saved the route in GPX format in a folder on the disk. Later, I transferred the gpx file to the SD card in the XT3 with a cable. After importing the file into the internal memory, the calculation was very fast and the route and points were exactly where I placed them. Is this just a coincidence or does it work?

I tried importing some very old GPX files onto the SD card, which were definitely created with MapSource, and the same thing happened. The routes and POIs were where they should be.

Let someone else try it....

Francis wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2026 9:22 pm The thought processes of Garmin's developers are sometimes a mystery to me...
The pre-set "zumo Motorcycle" profile can't be deleted, can't be renamed, and is missing some options

I have done quite some testing with the XT3, since I got it.
I cant confirm your statements. Meaning I CAN delete, edit ALL profiles, also the default.

What does happen, when the profile is 'out of date' that the XT3 creates profiles. Often resulting in duplicates

raza wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 8:35 am Let someone else try it....

I tried it. And my assumptions proved to be correct.

- MapSource has no notion of Via or Shaping points. So using Mapsource you lose the option the define Shaping points.
- When you import a Mapsource GPX all your points will be VIA points in the XT3.
- We already established that only routes containing shaping points will get modified by the Tread App.
- If you create a route in BaseCamp with ONLY VIA points you will get similar results.

- As for the speed. TripManager V1.7.0.382 has the option to create trips that do not recalculate, if the GPX is created from BaseCamp. That is even faster.
- BTW if you send a Mapsource GPX with TripManager and use the option trips, all your route points will become shaping points. My personal preference.