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Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:17 pm
by Wrench100
Here’s the process that I’ve been using to create maps in Google Maps, then transfer them to the XT2. I like using Google Maps for the “drag the path around on the map to customize it” functionality.

• First, DON’T go to the normal Google Maps page, it’s not possible to do it from there.

• Use the My Maps page. As near as I can tell, Google no longer offers a button for this page anywhere. You can use this link: https://www.google.com/maps/d/ Note that you need to be logged in to your Google account for this to work.

• Hit the Create a New Map button

• Change the map name to whatever you want to call it. Note that the Zumo can’t have two maps with the same name – it’ll ignore the second.

• Press the Add Directions button, which is the Y-shaped thing with an arrow on the right end. This will create a new Map layer and present Start and End fields.

• Enter your starting and ending destinations and Google will create a route.

• Now edit the map. Drag routes onto roads and do all the normal stuff to create a custom route. If you’re using an iPad you’ll have to have a mouse connected to do this – the touch screen interface doesn’t work.

• (Optional) When you created the new Directions layer, it left the original untitled layer in place. You need to delete it. Click the three vertical dots in the Untitled layer to get to the Delete command.

• To the right of the map title (not the layer title) is another three-dot menu. Open that and choose Export to KML/KMZ. From the pop-up menu select the layer with your driving directions. Click the “Export as KML instead of KMZ” button. Download the file.

That gives you a KML file of your custom route, now you need to convert it to a GPX. You can do that using a website or, on the iPad, the website or an app.

• Go to https://kml2gpx.com/

• Upload your KML file, convert it, and download the result.

iPAD NOTE:
On the iPad you must use Chrome for the klm2gpx step because Safari can’t download the resulting GPX. On the iPad you also have the option of the Geo Converter app. It generates smaller files than the kml2gpx site. In the GPX I just made we’re talking 4.3 mb using the web site vs 700k using Geo Converter.

You should now have a working GPX of your custom map.

To put it onto the XT2 using an iPhone (sorry Android users, you’ll have to figure out your own mechanism for this – the goal is to get the file into the Tread app on your phone):

• Airdrop the map to your phone.

• When the phone receives the map it’ll give you a page showing a placeholder document. Click the Share button at the bottom of the screen. Your goal is to share it to the Garmin Tread app. If the Tread app doesn’t appear in the horizontal list of icons then you need to click the more options button, or whatever it's called and find the Tread app. Once you do, the map will appear in the Tread app and automatically sync to your XT2, if the Zumo is on.

IF YOU DON’T HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION: Syncing from the Tread app to the Zumo requires an internet connection – it can’t go device-to-device. In that case you can skip the phone. Instead, transfer the GPX from your computer or iPad to a MicroSD card and then put that into the Zumo and import the map.

Converting the Track to a Route:

• The map imports into the Zumo from Tread as a Track. You can use tracks for navigation on the device, but you won’t get turn-by-turn instructions, lane assist, time to next waypoint, etc. To get that you must convert the track to a route. On the Zumo, go to the Tracks page and select the track you want to convert. When it comes up, click the wrench icon. From the resulting menu choose Convert to Route. Now you can go to the Routes page to select the route for navigation. You can also do this conversion in the Tread app.

You know how, in Star Trek, they fly up to aliens they’ve never met before and start sending rendezvous coordinates to each other, to meet in person? Their Federation is plainly NOT using Garmin stuff.

I’ve been riding across the country for the last few weeks and the technique I’ve described here has been very reliable. That said, the Route features on the XT2 are HORRIBLE. When I click the Route app it immediately starts syncing with the phone, which takes a bit. If I scroll down, it starts syncing again, which takes just as long. I often find myself racing to try to tap on the route that I need before it starts its sync again.

Overall, when working with routes on the XT2 performance is completely abysmal. Long waits between each button press, slow screen re-draw until I get started. A few times I’ve had to pull over to wait for the route to load and start up, because it’s so slow I was afraid I would miss some important navigation stuff.

The more Routes and Tracks you have on the device, the worse it gets, until eventually the XT2 starts crashing. So I would recommend keeping as few routes and tracks on-board as possible. If you’re hoping to keep a big library of useful routes that you’ve used, that’s not possible. Hopefully the eventual XT3 will have a useful level of processing power, because the XT2 simply doesn’t.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 2:00 pm
by jfheath
Welcome @Wrench100

Wow - that is one impressive first post. Thank you. I'm not a fan of Google maps - but I'll give your instructions a try.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:44 pm
by Wrench100
One thing I noticed the other day: sometimes that particular Google Maps site goes weird and you can't add new points to a route. If you re-load and mouse around on your path, eventually the previous waypoints that you added will appear, and you can move those, and then it all goes back to normal. It's weird.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:29 pm
by turbo19
Wrench100 wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:17 pm Here’s the process that I’ve been using to create maps in Google Maps, then transfer them to the XT2. I like using Google Maps for the “drag the path around on the map to customize it” functionality.

• First, DON’T go to the normal Google Maps page, it’s not possible to do it from there.

• Use the My Maps page. As near as I can tell, Google no longer offers a button for this page anywhere. You can use this link: https://www.google.com/maps/d/ Note that you need to be logged in to your Google account for this to work.

• Hit the Create a New Map button

• Change the map name to whatever you want to call it. Note that the Zumo can’t have two maps with the same name – it’ll ignore the second.

• Press the Add Directions button, which is the Y-shaped thing with an arrow on the right end. This will create a new Map layer and present Start and End fields.

• Enter your starting and ending destinations and Google will create a route.

• Now edit the map. Drag routes onto roads and do all the normal stuff to create a custom route. If you’re using an iPad you’ll have to have a mouse connected to do this – the touch screen interface doesn’t work.

• (Optional) When you created the new Directions layer, it left the original untitled layer in place. You need to delete it. Click the three vertical dots in the Untitled layer to get to the Delete command.

• To the right of the map title (not the layer title) is another three-dot menu. Open that and choose Export to KML/KMZ. From the pop-up menu select the layer with your driving directions. Click the “Export as KML instead of KMZ” button. Download the file.

That gives you a KML file of your custom route, now you need to convert it to a GPX. You can do that using a website or, on the iPad, the website or an app.

• Go to https://kml2gpx.com/

• Upload your KML file, convert it, and download the result.

iPAD NOTE:
On the iPad you must use Chrome for the klm2gpx step because Safari can’t download the resulting GPX. On the iPad you also have the option of the Geo Converter app. It generates smaller files than the kml2gpx site. In the GPX I just made we’re talking 4.3 mb using the web site vs 700k using Geo Converter.

You should now have a working GPX of your custom map.

To put it onto the XT2 using an iPhone (sorry Android users, you’ll have to figure out your own mechanism for this – the goal is to get the file into the Tread app on your phone):

• Airdrop the map to your phone.

• When the phone receives the map it’ll give you a page showing a placeholder document. Click the Share button at the bottom of the screen. Your goal is to share it to the Garmin Tread app. If the Tread app doesn’t appear in the horizontal list of icons then you need to click the more options button, or whatever it's called and find the Tread app. Once you do, the map will appear in the Tread app and automatically sync to your XT2, if the Zumo is on.

IF YOU DON’T HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION: Syncing from the Tread app to the Zumo requires an internet connection – it can’t go device-to-device. In that case you can skip the phone. Instead, transfer the GPX from your computer or iPad to a MicroSD card and then put that into the Zumo and import the map.

Converting the Track to a Route:

• The map imports into the Zumo from Tread as a Track. You can use tracks for navigation on the device, but you won’t get turn-by-turn instructions, lane assist, time to next waypoint, etc. To get that you must convert the track to a route. On the Zumo, go to the Tracks page and select the track you want to convert. When it comes up, click the wrench icon. From the resulting menu choose Convert to Route. Now you can go to the Routes page to select the route for navigation. You can also do this conversion in the Tread app.

You know how, in Star Trek, they fly up to aliens they’ve never met before and start sending rendezvous coordinates to each other, to meet in person? Their Federation is plainly NOT using Garmin stuff.

I’ve been riding across the country for the last few weeks and the technique I’ve described here has been very reliable. That said, the Route features on the XT2 are HORRIBLE. When I click the Route app it immediately starts syncing with the phone, which takes a bit. If I scroll down, it starts syncing again, which takes just as long. I often find myself racing to try to tap on the route that I need before it starts its sync again.

Overall, when working with routes on the XT2 performance is completely abysmal. Long waits between each button press, slow screen re-draw until I get started. A few times I’ve had to pull over to wait for the route to load and start up, because it’s so slow I was afraid I would miss some important navigation stuff.

The more Routes and Tracks you have on the device, the worse it gets, until eventually the XT2 starts crashing. So I would recommend keeping as few routes and tracks on-board as possible. If you’re hoping to keep a big library of useful routes that you’ve used, that’s not possible. Hopefully the eventual XT3 will have a useful level of processing power, because the XT2 simply doesn’t.

It is possible and much easier to do so from the "normal" Google Maps page:

1- You create your route with all the points you want, you can even create more than 10 points using the simple trick I attached in a YouTube video.



2- After drawing the route, use the Maps to Gpx converter, you simply have to paste the link from the Google Maps browser bar into the utility, and it will automatically download the track in gpx format, which we can convert into a route on our XT2.

https://mapstogpx.com/

;)

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:43 pm
by Wrench100
Oh that's great! I used to use this site but then it stopped working for me for a while, which is why I came up with the other scheme. It seems like Google often makes changes that break a lot of these support efforts.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 12:07 am
by Regain
If you like using Google to create routes, this seems like a good idea. Obviously you only get tracks which can be converted. MRA and Basecamp also send the route.

Anyway, that’s not really why I’m replying. You don’t need an internet connection between Tread and the XT2 as they also use Bluetooth. They both use either one or the other - I’m not sure if they use internet by default if connected but probably do.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:04 am
by jfheath
Regain wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 12:07 am
Anyway, that’s not really why I’m replying. You don’t need an internet connection between Tread and the XT2 as they also use Bluetooth. They both use either one or the other - I’m not sure if they use internet by default if connected but probably do.
I have my phone connected to the XT2 and my ipad connected to Tread without being connected to the XT2. My Ipad picks up the routes etc once the XT2 has synched with the Tread database via the phone's data connection (so BT to phone, 5G or wifi to Explore/Tread database). My ipad is only using Wifi. I know this 'cos it doesn't have a SIM card in it and BT is off.

But - you may have to change the ownership of the 'route'. Simply adding a full stop to the route or waypoint name using the Ipad will force a synch to the XT2. Removing the full stop and saving it on the XT2 will force a synch to the Tread database - which both phone and ipad then receive. It isn't always necessary but it works.

The reason this is handy is that the ipad screen is much larger and therefore easier to see and use. But it is the phone that synchs with the XT2 - and until I tell the XT2 to forget the iPad and remove the BT link to the XT2 on the ipad BT settings, I keep BT on the ipad turned off. But it necessary to pair the ipad with the XT2 first, otherwise the tread app will not allow you to create routes.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:00 am
by Regain
After I wrote my last post, I doubted myself so went to the online manual. Turns out it’s true.

@jfheath I've also had my tablet connected this way but haven’t reconnected since trying to stop deleted routes reappearing. I may give it another go now I’m happy with that but much prefer MRA (or Basecamp works) as you also get a track.

Tread App:

See Syncing, Adding, and Deleting Garmin Explore Data on the zūmo XT2 GPS Navigator.

NOTE: When using the zūmo XT2, it is recommended to use the Tread app for creating and managing waypoints, routes, and tracks. If an internet connection to sync the data from the Tread app on your phone is not available, you can share the GPX file first to the Tread app and then send it directly to the zūmo XT2 as long as you are connected to the Tread app via Bluetooth.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:14 am
by jfheath
It's all academic to me. Tread changes the route so I don't use it.

Excellent idea. Badly implemented as far as I am concerned.

If you transfer a route from the Tread App - however you do it, Tread will nearly always change it- usually by moving the routing points.

If you have a route with any shaping points, the route will still be subject to change and it will move the shaping points to match the route.

It seems to work better if you use all Via Points. But then the Trip Data at the side of the screen - distance to next coffee stop, becomes useless every point is announced, which is a pain, and up ahead traffic seems to look only as far as the next Via Point (I have observed that, I have tested a few theories, but it is difficult to prove that it is actually the case).

At one point I thought I had the perfect solution. Create a gpx file in Basecamp. Send it to the ipad or phone and get import it into the tread app - and let it synch to the Zumo. No good. As soon as it synchs, the route is changed and shaping points are moved.

Re: Using Google Maps to create a route for the Zumo XT2

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:31 pm
by smfollen
I can offer an alternative which directly converts a KML file from Google My Maps to a true Garmin style route with Via and Shaping points - not a more limited "track-trip" which the XT[2] track to route conversion produces. It also works to covert a track from Rever. Trk2Rt is something I wrote for my own use. It is shared here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing. It is entirely free, no strings attached.

A very brief and simplified explanation: With most any route planning tool, the user specifies a few locations and the software calculates paths between those locations. In a KML file, they are called placemarks and linestrings, in a gpx file, they may be waypoints and a track or route points and route point extensions (aka ghost points). All of these are really the same information, just named and formatted differently.

Both a My Maps kml file and a Rever gpx track include the placemarks / waypoints in route order. Trk2Rt converts those to route [via by default] points, then breaks up the linestring / track into segments between those route points, selects a small, evenly spaced [configurable] number of coordinates /track points from each segment, and converts those to shaping points.

The above link includes the software, a user's guide, and further explanation.
It runs on a pc and produces the route in a gpx file.
There are multiple ways to get the gpx file onto the XT2. I use FrankB's Trip manger, which offers a rich set of features. viewtopic.php?t=3150
Like JFHeath, and others, I avoid the Tread App entirely because it changes routes.