Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Having Garmin zumo XT problems? there is loads of help and advice in this forum
User avatar
twowheelstom
Posts: 196
Joined: 29 May 2018 19:00
Location: Nova Scotia
Has liked: 5 times
Been liked: 20 times
Canada

Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by twowheelstom »

How does Fuel Gauge Settings work? my bike has a 15 liter tank, and I can get 15 km per liter on the highway, 3 liters is reserve , 12 liters regular, what numbers do I put in the Fuel Gauge Settings? do I turn on Fuel Tracking (Disabled - out of motorcycle mount?
and how does Dynamic Fuel Stops work? i can't turn that on, it's disabled, does it work?.
What value do I put in Remaining Fuel Warning?
I can ride 180km on the highway on 12 liters before reserve
2005 Kawasaki 800 cruiser Zumo XT 8-)
rbentnail
Subscriber
Posts: 913
Joined: 18 Jun 2018 10:14
Location: North Carolina USA
Has liked: 99 times
Been liked: 215 times
United States of America

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by rbentnail »

To me the XT fuel setting are useless bloat that I would love to delete. Last bike I owned that didn't have a fuel gauge was back in the 90's. I certainly don't need estimates from the XT when I have actual fuel level right there on my dash. I understand the 800 doesn't have one (you have the carb model, yes?) but at only 110-120 miles to switch to reserve is the feature really worth bothering with?

So really, do you need to use it? Or is it something that you might be interested in? I found some features are disabled when the XT is: A) not mounted in the motorcycle mount, and B) not in the motorcycle mode. This may be one of them.
Russ B. Zumo 595 & XT
2007 & 2013 USA Yamaha FJR1300A
User avatar
Peobody
Subscriber
Posts: 1462
Joined: 20 Apr 2021 13:33
Location: North Carolina USA
Has liked: 109 times
Been liked: 321 times
United States of America

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by Peobody »

rbentnail wrote: 09 Feb 2024 21:19 To me the XT fuel setting are useless bloat that I would love to delete.


Indeed! I don't use it either, but I don't rely solely on the gauge when touring. I get avg 200 miles on a tank so my routes include fuel stop waypoints at ±150 mile intervals. Those planned fuel stops are my fuel level security feature as well as my "time to take a break" feature.
2008 Honda GL1800 Goldwing
1995 Kawasaki ZG1000 Concours
zūmo XT linked to Cardo Packtalk Bold and iPhone SE.
User avatar
twowheelstom
Posts: 196
Joined: 29 May 2018 19:00
Location: Nova Scotia
Has liked: 5 times
Been liked: 20 times
Canada

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by twowheelstom »

rbentnail wrote: 09 Feb 2024 21:19 To me the XT fuel setting are useless bloat that I would love to delete.
I understand the 800 doesn't have one (you have the carb model, yes?) but at only 110-120 miles to switch to reserve is the feature really worth bothering with?

So really, do you need to use it?
ya the 2005 Kawasaki 800 carb has no fuel gauge. I saw that fuel Icon on my XT screen and was wondering if it's worth using, I guess you summed it up nicely. guess I'll ignore that fuel icon now.
2005 Kawasaki 800 cruiser Zumo XT 8-)
User avatar
Peobody
Subscriber
Posts: 1462
Joined: 20 Apr 2021 13:33
Location: North Carolina USA
Has liked: 109 times
Been liked: 321 times
United States of America

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by Peobody »

twowheelstom wrote: 09 Feb 2024 22:04 ya the 2005 Kawasaki 800 carb has no fuel gauge
:shock: I did not think that any bike in the 800 size range built in 2000+ would not have a gauge, especially one suitable for touring.
2008 Honda GL1800 Goldwing
1995 Kawasaki ZG1000 Concours
zūmo XT linked to Cardo Packtalk Bold and iPhone SE.
rbentnail
Subscriber
Posts: 913
Joined: 18 Jun 2018 10:14
Location: North Carolina USA
Has liked: 99 times
Been liked: 215 times
United States of America

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by rbentnail »

Peobody wrote: 09 Feb 2024 22:21
twowheelstom wrote: 09 Feb 2024 22:04 ya the 2005 Kawasaki 800 carb has no fuel gauge
:shock: I did not think that any bike in the 800 size range built in 2000+ would not have a gauge, especially one suitable for touring.
I had the 650-750's of the 80's and 90's. The biggest fuel worry was switching back to run after filling up so you actually had a reserve next time. Although cruiser styled, they weren't really what I would now call a touring bike. Being light and zippy they were great around town but on the hwy could be a bit buzzy and without a windshield was a lot of work riding for more than 4 or 5 hrs in a day. I had a '04 Kaw 1500 Classic that I set up for more touring with a Mustang seat, hard bags and windshield. Much better for the hwy, and it had a fuel gauge. FJR's for me since 2008, easily 250 miles per tank. I typically stop at 3/8 used, then again at another 3/8 used and fill back up. That easily gives me at least 90 miles to find fuel.
Russ B. Zumo 595 & XT
2007 & 2013 USA Yamaha FJR1300A
jfheath
Posts: 2520
Joined: 19 Oct 2019 16:17
Location: West Yorkshire, Uk
Has liked: 328 times
Been liked: 690 times
Great Britain

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by jfheath »

I reset the trip odometer every time I fill up. It will do between 250 and 280 miles to a tank, so I start looking for fuel at around 220.

But the fuel gauge isn't bad either.

The various Zumo trips and bike stats - I can't be bothered with. Although I used to use the total riding time as an indication of when to change my bullet camera SD card - it would record about 4.5 hours before overwriting older recordings.
Have owned Zumo 550, 660 == Now have Zumo XT2, XT, 595, 590, Headache
Use Basecamp (mainly), MyRouteApp (sometimes)

Links: Zumo 590/5 & BC . . . Zumo XT & BC
rbentnail
Subscriber
Posts: 913
Joined: 18 Jun 2018 10:14
Location: North Carolina USA
Has liked: 99 times
Been liked: 215 times
United States of America

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by rbentnail »

jfheath wrote: 09 Feb 2024 22:53 I reset the trip odometer every time I fill up. It will do between 250 and 280 miles to a tank, so I start looking for fuel at around 220.

But the fuel gauge isn't bad either.

The various Zumo trips and bike stats - I can't be bothered with. Although I used to use the total riding time as an indication of when to change my bullet camera SD card - it would record about 4.5 hours before overwriting older recordings.
The newer FJRs (since 2013) have all kinds of cutesy stuff like that- 2 trip odometers, 1 trip timer that resets with ignition cycle, 1 trip timer that has manual reset, fuel range, instant & average fuel milege, ambient temperature, coolant temp, blahblahblah. And deeper in the menus there's maint schedules you can set up. I didn't. I ignore it all on the gps, too. I just want a gps, don't need or want all the other stuff. Like my old nuvi, just with the screen and power of the XT. Simple & straightforward.
Russ B. Zumo 595 & XT
2007 & 2013 USA Yamaha FJR1300A
danham
Posts: 302
Joined: 13 Jul 2018 14:25
Location: Cape Cod, MA
Has liked: 96 times
Been liked: 93 times
United States of America

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by danham »

Being north of 70 (years), I have a much more accurate fuel warning system. As my friend and riding buddy puts it, "We run out of ass before we run out of gas."

-dan
Zumo XT, 660, nuvi 760 and many retired units dating back to the GPS III+
2018 Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX SE
User avatar
lkraus
Subscriber
Posts: 401
Joined: 24 Aug 2020 14:36
Location: Central Ohio
Has liked: 54 times
Been liked: 125 times
United States of America

Re: Fuel Gauge Setting ?

Post by lkraus »

twowheelstom wrote: 09 Feb 2024 14:35 How does Fuel Gauge Settings work? my bike has a 15 liter tank, and I can get 15 km per liter on the highway, 3 liters is reserve , 12 liters regular, what numbers do I put in the Fuel Gauge Settings? do I turn on Fuel Tracking (Disabled - out of motorcycle mount?
and how does Dynamic Fuel Stops work? i can't turn that on, it's disabled, does it work?.
What value do I put in Remaining Fuel Warning?
I can ride 180km on the highway on 12 liters before reserve
The fuel page makes its calculations based on the unchanging numbers you input. It only knows the distance recorded by the GPS since you reset it at the last fuel stop.

It only provides estimates because it does not actually know how much fuel is being used, or the current fuel level, so it cannot account for changing conditions.

It's useless, IMO. It's too much trouble to remember and reset, especially since my goal at a fuel stop is to get back on the road quickly.

The BMW Navigators (based on similar Zumo models) actually had a connection to the bike CANBUS, and could detect how fast fuel was being consumed and how much fuel was in the tank. The GPS fuel gauge was not always precise, but it was usefully accurate.

I only fully trust my trip meter, and previous experience with my fuel consumption. I know my tank is 7.1 U.S. gallons, I have 1 gallon left when the DistanceToEmpty display shows zero miles remaining, I can usually count on 48 mpg or more. Maximum range so far has been 374 (anxious) miles. I start looking for fuel at 250 miles if I'm in new territory, even sooner in some sparsely populated areas of the western U.S. (see maximum range, above). My bikes fuel gauge has always worked as intended, the mpg display and distance to empty is accurate. Unfortunately, the "fuel strip" used to measure the fuel level has a reputation for sudden failure, so I cannot rely on the gauge.

I still remember the "find a gas station NOW" trip meter mileages for my bikes going back to 1980.
____________________________________
2006 R1200RT
Galaxy S10<>Zumo XT<>Sena 20S