Any tips to fix RUT without computer?

[danham]

I'm off on a nice 2500-mile trip to the NC/TN mountains in a few weeks and I have pre-loaded a bunch of routes and used the Trip Repair Tool to make them all "Saved" routes.

But as we all know, there can be glitches that require re-loading (importing) a route from the SD card.

I seem to recall that you can start the Imported route, stop, save it under a new name, and it will show up in Saved. But trying that at home, no dice, so I assume you have to actually be in the location of the start to have that work.

Thoughts, tips, warnings?

Many thanks,

-dan

[Oop North John]

Not tried it recently but the only "problem" I remember was that if you do it from a location remote from the actual start, then it'll add on the directions to get you to the start point.

[Peobody]

My comment would be the same as what @Oop North John said. I don't understand why it didn't work at home though, provided you were testing it with a local route that started from your house (or close to it).

The way RUT gets fixed if by changing a bit (mimport) in the .trip file which is the file the XT creates when it import a route from a .GPX. Therefore, there is no way to fix RUT in the source .GPX.

FWIW, RUT behavior is rare, requiring a specific set of circumstances (eg: skipping a via point). To me it's not worth worrying about while on the road. Fix it before you start, then if somehow the import route gets modified, reimport with the knowledge that if you should get into RUT, a restart of the route will fix it. Having a track of the route showing on the map provides an extra level of comfort.

I'm off on a nice 2500-mile trip to the NC/TN mountains in a few weeks

You're going to be in my neck of the woods. There is some beautiful country and awesome riding in those parts.

[FrankB]

I seem to recall that you can start the Imported route, stop, save it under a new name, and it will show up in Saved. But trying that at home, no dice,

Can you give more details? What exactly goes wrong?
Here is the link of the original poster: https://www.ukgser.com/community/thread ... st-5242062

so I assume you have to actually be in the location of the start to have that work.

Not necessarily. You can use the GPS Simulator, and move your virtual position to the start point of the route. (Or very near) Before you do the resave trick.

[Oop North John]

FWIW, RUT behavior is rare, requiring a specific set of circumstances (eg: skipping a via point). To me it's not worth worrying about while on the road. Fix it before you start, then if somehow the import route gets modified, reimport with the knowledge that if you should get into RUT, a restart of the route will fix it. Having a track of the route showing on the map provides an extra level of comfort.

I have seen RUT without the need to skip any way / via / shaping points.

IHaving it happen in the middle of a town, where there was a road closure and no signed diversion signs had me ready to throw the useless POS down the road. Restarting the route had no effect when you do a turn it doesn't like, as the whole RUT starts again and wants you to go back to somewhere you don't want to as you know it won't help. And having the track displayed will only help in this circumstance in showing you what you hoped to do.

[Peobody]

My RUT experience has always been the result of first having skipped a point then going off-route and allowing it to recalculate. To be clear, RUT is not repeated u-turn prompts that are trying to get you to visit a Via point that you missed.

And having the track displayed will only help in this circumstance in showing you what you hoped to do.

IMHO, having the track shown on the map is invaluable. There is great comfort in knowing where the intended route is. I can then manually navigate to it and from there have the choice of continuing to manually navigating along it or pulling over and restarting the route.

[danham]

I'll try to answer everyone so far...

Peobody: I've been to your neck of the woods many times and the riding there is superb. Staying in Bryson City and then Little Switzerland.

Frank B: What goes wrong is that without actually starting the route, ie sitting at my desk, there is no option to save it under a new name. I'll try simulator.

Oop NJ: Having the track visible has saved my bacon numerous times. The exception is a route that crosses itself and with no direction arrows that can confuse everyone (me and the zumo). Hope is important in these circumstances.

This is a great group. Thanks for your help.

-dan

[FrankB]

Frank B: What goes wrong is that without actually starting the route, ie sitting at my desk, there is no option to save it under a new name. I'll try simulator.

Right. Indeed you first have to start the route. Then switch back to the trip planner and select 'my active route' (or similar). If you happen to be far away from the starting point, the segment from your location to the starting point is added to the route. That's why this method is most useful to employ just before you set off. Note that when you actually start the route, even with this additional segment added, you can start the route from the original starting point, because it is a Via Point and should be selectable in the list.

The simulator can be used to practically avoid adding this extra segment.

[proofresistant]

Isn't it enough to “simply” open the imported route without starting navigation, and then save a copy of it on the device?
Then the copy would also have the “Saved” flag and wouldn't be interpreted as “imported,” so it would be less of a problem for RUT.

Tell me, am I remembering this wrong?

[FrankB]

Isn't it enough to “simply” open the imported route without starting navigation, and then save a copy of it on the device?
Then the copy would also have the “Saved” flag and wouldn't be interpreted as “imported,” so it would be less of a problem for RUT.

Tell me, am I remembering this wrong?

On the XT(1) that option is not available. It appeared first on the XT2.