BC weirdness

[jfheath]

I'd love to see the gpx file of the route that goes through Capel Curig and then the massive detour over Llanberis pass. I can't make my Basecamp do that.

I can undertsand why it would go over to Llanberis before it turns back - there are no places where you can safely turn until you get over the top - except for the Snowdon Car Park - but the mapping won't treat that as a road. But why take that anyway ?
You have three arrows in roughly the same spot which sugests that it might be following three different parts of the same route at that point and not two.

I'm not one to advocate the shaping point every few miles. I prefer a minimum number just to keep the route on the road. For awkward situations with nearby roads, two shaping points at one third intervals is enough to stop a route performing a U turn and going back the way it came to reach a 'better road'.

I think that the 595 is one of the better Zumos of recent years. The 590 was more predictable - some of the recent XT problems started life with the 595. I switched my 590 to use 595 software, but later switched it back because of this. I do still have both.

[Peobody]

We also know that Basecamp can refuse to route along a stretch of road for an inexplicable reason. The only workaround is to place a shaping point at each end of that stretch then set the first one as a Direct point. This forces Basecamp to route straight between the two points. The occasions where I have had to do this have been short stretches and not noticeable on my XT when the route was ridden. I don't know if, or at what length, doing this can become an issue on the satnav.

[smfollen]

I have seen that happen when BC "thinks" a point can not be passed - a closed gate for example or a seasonal closure, etc.
Sometimes real and sometimes not. Such things are really map info rather than BC. Unfortunately, I have never found a way to get BC to tell me what it thinks the restriction is.
I have no idea what's going on for this particular case of course.

[OldRS]

I'd love to see the gpx file of the route that goes through Capel Curig and then the massive detour over Llanberis pass. I can't make my Basecamp do that.

I can undertsand why it would go over to Llanberis before it turns back - there are no places where you can safely turn until you get over the top - except for the Snowdon Car Park - but the mapping won't treat that as a road. But why take that anyway ?
You have three arrows in roughly the same spot which sugests that it might be following three different parts of the same route at that point and not two.

I'm not one to advocate the shaping point every few miles. I prefer a minimum number just to keep the route on the road. For awkward situations with nearby roads, two shaping points at one third intervals is enough to stop a route performing a U turn and going back the way it came to reach a 'better road'.

I think that the 595 is one of the better Zumos of recent years. The 590 was more predictable - some of the recent XT problems started life with the 595. I switched my 590 to use 595 software, but later switched it back because of this. I do still have both.

I think that the problem was caused by a weird interpretation of "no U turns".

I dislike having at add points to keep the navigation on the straight and narrow, particularly when creating routes on the 595.

As an aside: how does one replace the 595 sw with that for a 590?

I'm afraid that I think that the 550 has not been beaten in the important areas although the Bluetooth implementation isn't great. The 550 screen is, easily, readable in bright sunlight unlike the awful 590/5 screen that Garmin should be ashamed of.

[jfheath]

As an aside: how does one replace the 595 sw with that for a 590?

I'm afraid that I think that the 550 has not been beaten in the important areas although the Bluetooth implementation isn't great. The 550 screen is, easily, readable in bright sunlight unlike the awful 590/5 screen that Garmin should be ashamed of.

590 software on a 595 - you can do it, but it doesn't work properly. 595 software on a 590 is quite easy once you know how. That works well except for some odd reason, it cannot be switched into portrait view. If you don't like it, you can put the 590 software back. I've swithced my 590 back and forth more times than I can remember. When I came across a cheap genuine 595, one of the first things that I tried was to install the 590 software.

It requires some software to convert the appropriate GCD file to something else and some software to install it. Both can be found on the internet. Then it requires a bit of juggling as you have three thigs to do in the space of about 2 seconds Hold power button in, finger press on screen and click a button on the computer. So you have to practice that manoeuvre, but once you've sorted out which hand goes where. It is quite straight forward.

I'll post a link if I can find it. MY particualr link is here viewtopic.php?p=23793#p23793 - a pdf file to downlaod.
But the same thread provides a lot of other links too. Worth reading if you have a 590. But I will repeat - the 590 software will load onto a 595 device, but it does not work correctly.

The 590 screen never bothered me. I kept reading complaints about it, but I really couldn't see the problem. I could see it, it only ever suffered if the sun was shining directly onto it or if my yellow jacket was reflecting onto it. But I used it for many years and never really saw the complaints that I read about. I've just turned mine on - battery is low so it automatically drops the brightness to 40% and then 20% - and that is how it turns on. I know that sometimes I had to knock it back up to 100% when I put it into the bike cradle.

And with the 590 and 595, the battery is a real issue. It isn't the battery in fact, it is the charging. It doesn't hold a charge very well, or the connections don't allow it to charge properly. I just got into the habit of having it in a charging cradle at home, or plugging the USB cable into a power source when practicing, experimenting or plotting routes on it.

[OldRS]

As an aside: how does one replace the 595 sw with that for a 590?

I'm afraid that I think that the 550 has not been beaten in the important areas although the Bluetooth implementation isn't great. The 550 screen is, easily, readable in bright sunlight unlike the awful 590/5 screen that Garmin should be ashamed of.

590 software on a 595 - you can do it, but it doesn't work properly. 595 software on a 590 is quite easy once you know how. That works well except for some odd reason, it cannot be switched into portrait view. If you don't like it, you can put the 590 software back. I've swithced my 590 back and forth more times than I can remember. When I came across a cheap genuine 595, one of the first things that I tried was to install the 590 software.

It requires some software to convert the appropriate GCD file to something else and some software to install it. Both can be found on the internet. Then it requires a bit of juggling as you have three thigs to do in the space of about 2 seconds Hold power button in, finger press on screen and click a button on the computer. So you have to practice that manoeuvre, but once you've sorted out which hand goes where. It is quite straight forward.

I'll post a link if I can find it. MY particualr link is here viewtopic.php?p=23793#p23793 - a pdf file to downlaod.
But the same thread provides a lot of other links too. Worth reading if you have a 590. But I will repeat - the 590 software will load onto a 595 device, but it does not work correctly.

The 590 screen never bothered me. I kept reading complaints about it, but I really couldn't see the problem. I could see it, it only ever suffered if the sun was shining directly onto it or if my yellow jacket was reflecting onto it. But I used it for many years and never really saw the complaints that I read about. I've just turned mine on - battery is low so it automatically drops the brightness to 40% and then 20% - and that is how it turns on. I know that sometimes I had to knock it back up to 100% when I put it into the bike cradle.

And with the 590 and 595, the battery is a real issue. It isn't the battery in fact, it is the charging. It doesn't hold a charge very well, or the connections don't allow it to charge properly. I just got into the habit of having it in a charging cradle at home, or plugging the USB cable into a power source when practicing, experimenting or plotting routes on it.

Thanks.

Maybe I'll tolerate it as is!

Yep, reflection from hivis onto the 595 screen is tedious.

I found that the battery in the 550 had enough capacity to bring the unit fully into life after six or more months and then offer a decent off-power working time wheras the 590/5 can't manage 20 mins from a recent "full" charge. I tightened the pins of the battery plug - as recommended somewhere on 't web, to no avail. I have a car mount fixed to a board so that I can power the 595 when working on it off the bike.

Cheers

Richard

[jfheath]

A few weeks back, I put my 590 in a cradle and left it turned on, but with brightness turned way down dim. Cradle is connected to a transformer supplying 12v at 2.3A (It won't charge in the cradle if it is turned off.) I left it a couple of days like that. Then I did the same with the 595.

Today I have been using them intermittently. The 590 keeps saying low battery power. The 595 is still showing full - previously it would have started getting low after this much turning on and off. So I'm wondering if that is the issue - it cannot charge enough when it is on full brightness on the bike.
Pin contacts have been tweaked. Units have not been on a bike for a long while.

Its a big conclusion to draw from a single result - but the 595 used to show flat after being left off for a while before.
The 590 is obviously past it and Im not going to buy it a new battery. Its is working for what I want it for.