Map regions for CN EU map

[sussamb]

Garmin have recently changed the way map regions are offered for the CN EU map, see

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=J ... rNEPsreYN7

[Les]

When I connect my ZUMO 660LM to express it says 'Up to Date' with maps 2025.10.

According to Garmin's website the current mapping should be 2026.20 (Europe) as of May 28, 2025... but I cannot see were to get this new mapping.

[sussamb]

Your Zumo uses CN EU NT maps, which Garmin has discontinued, so unfortunately there are no further map updates for older devices that use EU NT map.

[Oop North John]

Your Zumo uses CN EU NT maps, which Garmin has discontinued, so unfortunately there are no further map updates for older devices that use EU NT map.

The "lifetime" maps that last as long as Garmin supports them then?

A nice way (for them) to keep their revenue stream going, though I suspect that the motorcycle satnavs are now a small proportion of it.

[sussamb]

Well as defined by Garmin, not too unreasonable in my view. They do keep stuff going as long as they can, MapSource for example that was replaced by BaseCamp around 15 years ago is still provided for free by Garmin. Lifetime has always been defined by Garmin as:

Lifetime Maps Terms & Conditions
If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately) or if your Garmin product comes bundled with a nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription, you will receive map data updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin.com during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. A product’s “useful life” means the period during which the product (a) has sufficient memory capacity and other required technical capabilities to utilize current map data and (b) is capable of operating as intended without major repairs. A product will be deemed to be out of service and its useful life to be ended if no updates have been downloaded for such product for a period of 24 months or more. Unless otherwise stated, the updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic area included with your Garmin product when originally purchased. In some instances, your Garmin product might not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the map data, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD™/SD™ card (if and as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD/SD card slot contained in your Garmin product. If neither of the measures in (a) or (b) can be used to address your product’s lack of sufficient remaining memory, then Garmin may conclude that the “useful life” of your product has expired. Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime or other lifetime map subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this agreement or your subscription. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription or other lifetime map subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product.

[Les]

Seems a bit of a scam there... my ZUMO 660 has plenty of memory due to (as mentioned) having a memory card installed, it works perfectly and has done since buying it many years ago.

I have no intention of purhasing an XT thing as I don't need the hassle that this technologial marvel has (according to many on this forum).

Disappointed is putting it mildly.

[lkraus]

Openmapchest.org has very good OSM maps that will work with your 660. Free when downloaded with a torrent client, updated every week, with clear instructions on the site.