Start and End Via points

[Fxwheels]

I had 2 r/t routes, rt1 and rt2. I cut rt1 in half, then rt2 in half. Rt1 starts and ends near my home (not the same points). I created a new list. In the new list I connected the two halfs where rt1 ends and rt2 starts, and where rt2 ends with rt1 starts. In the list, dragging rt1 onto rt2, BC created one larger route, and I deleted now not needed halfs from the list.
This way I got one r/t route made of two routes by connecting them together.

However, the starting point is not where the rt1 is starting (near my home), but rather in the middle where the start of the rt2 is. Same is the finish point. It ends not near my home but also in the middle where the rt2 ends. Then rt1 continues home.

Now here is the question: Is there a way to force the start and end points to where they should be (star/and of rt1 near home)?
Hope I am making myself clear.

[Peobody]

The simple answer seems to be that you create a new Waypoint (Via point) to serve as the start point and one to serve as the end point and then replace the existing ones with the new ones but that seems way too simple so I wonder if I am understanding exactly what you're dealing with. It could be as simple as reordering the route points so that the route is what you want. The start and end points must be via points though.

[Fxwheels]

I've tried, but I can't create or move the starting point, nor the ending point. They are very first and very last in the list (when double click on route).
Maybe I did something wrong when "gluing" them together.

[smfollen]

I'm not sure what you have exactly. In Basecamp, if you double click on the route to open the list of points, you can then step through the route one point at a time, in order, and you can reorder the points as desired.
To step through / follow the route, select the first point with the mouse then use the down arrow key on your keyboard, or your mouse, to follow the route and see what you have. For any point that is out of order, click on the up or down arrow at the right edge of the list to move the selected point up or down the list as needed.

Note the Center Map checkbox at the bottom of the list. It will center and zoom the map on each point you select. Uncheck that if you want to see the whole route or zoom to a portion of it.

[Peobody]

I've tried, but I can't create or move the starting point, nor the ending point. They are very first and very last in the list (when double click on route).
Maybe I did something wrong when "gluing" them together.

I've never heard of being unable to move or delete then add a point. I don't have an answer but I'm curious about when you say "move"; are you trying to move the point on the map, or are you trying to change the order of the route points in the route details list?

[Fxwheels]

When I double click on a route to view the points, I can move over any point. However, Starting point can be moved only down and End can be moved only up.
You can't more start more up or end more down, obviously.

Now, if doing it on the map, I can move the starting point to the beginning, but the move is now from rt2 to rt1 territory and it messing up the whole route by making direct lines which can't even be recalculated.
I think it confusing the BC

I think BC still seeing it as two routes connected, instead of one route...

[smfollen]

I can move the starting point to the beginning

I'm confused by this. I'm probably missing something but I'm thinking that the "start point" is the "beginning", which is the point at the top of the list. If you have some other point, further down in the list, that you want to be the start / beginning, select that point with the mouse, then use the arrow button to move it to the top of the list.

You can move any point(s) you want up or down the list to be in whatever order you want.

[Fxwheels]

I can move the starting point to the beginning

I'm confused by this. I'm probably missing something but I'm thinking that the "start point" is the "beginning", which is the point at the top of the list. If you have some other point, further down in the list, that you want to be the start / beginning, select that point with the mouse, then use the arrow button to move it to the top of the list.

You can move any point(s) you want up or down the list to be in whatever order you want.

That's right. It is in the beginning of the list.
However, on the nap it is in the middle of the route. Not in the beginning where my home is.
Reason being is because it is where the start of the rt2 actually was. And I can't move it over to the former rt1.
Remember that two routes are linked together.

Something is messed up. May be that BC doesn't recognize it as one route.

[Peobody]

If the route line is how you want it then it may be time to stop messing with trying to fix the route points in that route and just create a new one. Create new start and end waypoints, select them both and tell Basecamp to create a route from the selected points, make sure that start and end order is correct, use the rubber-band method to shape the route to match the route line of the problem route, add any interim waypoints that were in the original route, set all route points to alerting or not as desired, check route point placement precision, do a final Recalculate, delete the troublesome route and any unneeded waypoints.

[Fxwheels]

If the route line is how you want it then it may be time to stop messing with trying to fix the route points in that route and just create a new one. Create new start and end waypoints, select them both and tell Basecamp to create a route from the selected points, make sure that start and end order is correct, use the rubber-band method to shape the route to match the route line of the problem route, add any interim waypoints that were in the original route, set all route points to alerting or not as desired, check route point placement precision, do a final Recalculate, delete the troublesome route and any unneeded waypoints.

That's too much work. I see why it behaves this way. When I double click on the route, I see only the points from the rt2 (the 2nd half). The first half (from rt1) is not even there. That's why the Start and Finish are in the middle of the combined route just when the rt2 starts and where it ends.
Although BC did combine the two routes, it still sees it as 2 separate rides.
I can either navigate a track (what I'll likely do) or cut this route in to two different ones and navigate rt1 first, and rt2 next.