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Re: Windows 10

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:16 am
by sussamb
jfheath wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:30 am Note that you can have as many databases as you want. They all get saved in the same general location.
You can actually have databases wherever you want. Some place them somewhere in the 'cloud' so they can access them from anywhere. You choose the location when you create the database.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:22 am
by Stu
sussamb wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:16 am
jfheath wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:30 am Note that you can have as many databases as you want. They all get saved in the same general location.
You can actually have databases wherever you want. Some place them somewhere in the 'cloud' so they can access them from anywhere. You choose the location when you create the database.
you can also change it under Edit >> Options >> General

:)

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:19 pm
by jfheath
The way that Basecamp is set up, it seems to expect the same folder to be used for each database. However, do this and it can be very difficult to separate the data for one set of routes from another. I prefer to have each collection of routes stored in a completely isolated database, and for that I use separate subfolders for each.

So I will have BCDatabase as a main folder and will have (say) 2019 Routes and 2020 Routes as sub folders within the BCDatabase folder. I don't have to, but I give the folder name the same name as the database name. It makes it easy to know which folder belongs to which named database.

Using this technique you can easily make backup copies of a database, but it makes it easy (ish) to move a database from one location to another.
Basecamp doesn't like you doing this, so you have to fool it:

* In Basecamp, Create a new database, and if you wish create a new subfolder in which to keep it separate. (eg MCDatabases/2020Routes).
* Give it a name that is different from any other that Basecamp knows about.
* Let Basecamp start up with the new empty database, and then exit Basecamp.
* In Windows Explorer, find the new folder structure. There should be a folder called Database in MCDatabases/2020Routes. Delete it.
* Find the folder containing the Database you wish to move and navigate to where the Database folder is located. Right click and select Copy.
* Navigate to the new folder - eg MCDatabases/2020Routes - and Paste in the copied Database folder and contents.

This has replaced the new database which was empty, with a full one from somewhere else. When you reload Basecamp, the last database to be used was the new one - which will now contain all of the moved routes. The name of the database will be in the drop down list.

The last step is to get rid of the old database folder, and to delete the old database name from the list. But beware if you had different database names all stored in the same folder.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:01 pm
by patrickg450
C:\Users\Patri\AppData\Roaming\Garmin\BaseCamp\Database\4.7


Well I found it..............


Took much longer that I expected, thanks for the help. Not a big fan of WIN 10 thats for sure.

OK, so the whole reason I was looking is so that I can back it up/save it with all my other important files. So what are folks doing, just coping it every so often?

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:29 pm
by sussamb
Well if you just want to let BaseCamp do it for you the option is already there under File in the toolbar. Or you can just copy AllData.gdb and Folder.gfi to wherever you want to hold the back up. Those two files contain your routes, waypoints etc and your Folder/File structure.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:40 am
by jfheath
See my offering 3 posts back. It suggests a fool proof method of moving a database to a different location, and will also work for reinstating a copy of a database in the event of complete loss of data and / or Basecamp.

I do it this way as when Basecamp first came out, I managed to loose all of my data and I was unable to recover it. Their backup / restore is probably better now, but once bitten...... This gives me better control.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:35 am
by Breezly
patrickg450 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:01 pm C:\Users\Patri\AppData\Roaming\Garmin\BaseCamp\Database\4.7


Well I found it..............


Took much longer that I expected, thanks for the help. Not a big fan of WIN 10 thats for sure.

OK, so the whole reason I was looking is so that I can back it up/save it with all my other important files. So what are folks doing, just coping it every so often?
Having suffered a catastrophic data loss many years ago I take a belts and suspenders approach. First, I make backups perodically using the backup function within Basecamp. I also use Carbonite, an online backup service to backup up all may data files. Basic service is $72/year. Finally I also use an external harddrive and software to mirror my desktop harddrive, saving all my data along with programs.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:38 am
by patrickg450
I have a external HD I keep a bunch of stuff on. Just need to figure out what file to copy every month or so.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:01 pm
by Quincyhal
Can't you just copy everything? Or would that not work?

Re: Windows 10

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:12 pm
by patrickg450
I just copied the four files that were in that folder (address above in my previous post) to my external HD. I will do that every so often......hope it works.